Meditations

[The Abacus]

If the parents don't support that point of view, they shouldn't send their children there. XD

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Well it can't be all about the Technology. I don't to have to go a a nature perseveres just to have a walk in the Park. If there going to be a lot of technology, there better be way way to produce clean energy to power those devices. I don't my small home of Cassopolis not to have Trees. It one of the things it make it great.

In short, two option, the one I pick and the one that lead to the resort of going into alternate timeline to get a better life such as the TV show Terra Nova was base on.

[Anteroinen]

I would say Creationism in Schools for something inflammatory, but that's exclusively an American thing, I think.

It is child abuse (and hilariously stupid). There, moving on...

EDIT: Also, I think private schools shouldn't be legal. Anyone agree with me?

Also technology, I think, will result in disinterest and less appreciation/recognition to humanity's past cultures and accomplishments, which would be a shame considering that there is a lot of culture out there, which is currently being suppressed by modern society through globalisation, technology, mass influence and merging cultures (via the previous).

While I agree, and am saddened by the decline of the Sami languages for instance, I think it is inevitable. After all, cultures aren't constants and they never were. In some way globalization might even alleviate stress between cultures, as peoples' values begin to assimilate.

I fear that we won't act soon, and when we finally do we would have already started experiencing their effects. My hope lies in technology and the knowledge that there are people out there who see that these problems have the potential to threaten humanity.

They are all already a problem: water level has risen due to warming, acidic rain has been a thing for a while and then there are the debris masses floating in giant whirlpools in the Pacific...

[Rooster5man]

Why shouldn't private schools be legal? I haven't attended one, but I've never heard anyone argue the legality of them.

While I still read them, I too have noticed a growing threshold before actually commenting on a Submachine related issue. It seems that some discussions just don't entice my imagination - or urge to interject with a comment of a smart Alec - and encompass things I deem trivial about the series. I fear my views are stagnating in that respect, or is it just that we aren't stirring the discussion deep enough, when we think that we've finally found a solid surface within this endless bog of mystery and deception that is the Submachine series?

Well, what would you rather talk about? You can always speak your mind.

I don't know if it's the time of year, or just that all the older members have grown up and moved on with their lives (except the select few, of course), but this place seems a little dead, and I'd rather have intriguing debate and discussion about the Submachine Series, or any other Flash Game of PastelGames, or maybe anything in general, but the way things are going, it seems like people are very busy.

Not that I blame them - Reality takes over after a while, you can't help that.

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Why shouldn't private schools be legal? I haven't attended one, but I've never heard anyone argue the legality of them.

Not all of them are good. When I was little I was a bit more out of control due to my Autism. I would not make it easy for the teachers and my parent to take me to a regular school. When the school found out about my Autism, they suggested that i go to a special made school to deal with kids my age with Autism. Lucky my mom didn't send me. But it was the fact that there Were private school specifically made to send Autistic or other kids like me away from society all together. Lucky people understand more about how we need to work within a certain perimeter.

[Oleander]

Why shouldn't private schools be legal? I haven't attended one, but I've never heard anyone argue the legality of them.

They aren't subject to the majority of the regulations that public schools have, and thus they can pretty much choose their own curriculum. This might be good sometimes, but it also gives free reign to people who want to interject their personal beliefs onto children and call it "education". That is obviously totally inappropriate. I am also opposed to private schooling, but my main qualm with the idea is that there is tuition involved, and I don't think anyone should ever have to pay to learn something if they want to know about it.

[Anteroinen]

Why shouldn't private schools be legal? I haven't attended one, but I've never heard anyone argue the legality of them.

They are completely superfluous to the educational system and do nothing but create competition where equality is imperative.

While I still read them, I too have noticed a growing threshold before actually commenting on a Submachine related issue. It seems that some discussions just don't entice my imagination - or urge to interject with a comment of a smart Alec - and encompass things I deem trivial about the series. I fear my views are stagnating in that respect, or is it just that we aren't stirring the discussion deep enough, when we think that we've finally found a solid surface within this endless bog of mystery and deception that is the Submachine series?

Well, what would you rather talk about? You can always speak your mind.

I do not know really. Maybe it is that the discussions seem to deal the same issues over and over again - the eighth layer, anyone? I'd like to find some sturdy debate ground, like we did with the location of the edge. Not something completely in the metaphysical realm that we can say little about, yet not something in the apparent, mundane facts, quite plainly evident to anyone. I don't know what this would be though... the nature of the plan, the history of the series....?

[Rooster5man]

Thank you three for the answers

You know, WorldisQuiet, you reminded me: When I was in Pre-K, I was sent to a sort of Private Pre-K after a while - My parents told me I never spoke, so when someone got me mad, I suppose I bit them...possibly for no reason, I have no idea of knowing. I don't remember being "molded" by them, but who knows.

This might be good sometimes, but it also gives free reign to people who want to interject their personal beliefs onto children and call it "education".

Oh, so like Catholic Schools. I see. Catholic Schools being considered "Private Schools" completely skipped my mind, but I understand - Tuition to give kids an education they may not need (i.e. Having to pray in school.) Yeah, that seems unnecessary.

Being I still don't know that much about Private Schools other than that, I'd say I'd like a Private School (like going to College) where you can learn at your own pace and learn what you want to learn. Like a Vocational School.

I do not know really. Maybe it is that the discussions seem to deal the same issues over and over again - the eighth layer, anyone? I'd like to find some sturdy debate ground, like we did with the location of the edge. Not something completely in the metaphysical realm that we can say little about, yet not something in the apparent, mundane facts, quite plainly evident to anyone. I don't know what this would be though... the nature of the plan, the history of the series....?

Well, as much as I'd like to throw around what the Plan is, we know only as much as what Sub8 gave us, maybe parts of the other Series too scattered in there that I can't recall right now.

I wasn't here when you debated about the Edge, so if you could give an example (or maybe a link), we could try to work off that and actually give free-flowing debate/discussion on a range of ideas that could take place.

History of the Series: We have the timeline on the Wiki. Speaking of which, I disagree with the idea that "We the King" is actually a King in history. While they may be, and it's all a conspiracy that they were part of a secret organization creating the SubNet and whatnot, it makes more sense that the King is a monarch in their own mind. Perhaps it being We the King, it's an organization - Perhaps the Company? Perhaps the Company (of Mur's) has changed hands through generation to generation, just like the Marauder's Map in Harry Potter?

[Redafro]

Man, the conversation is moving fast tonight.

I'm really amazed how statist some of you guys are. Public education needs competition. People need the freedom to choose how they want to raise their kids. Who the heck are you to tell parents how they should raise their kids? Competition is a good thing; it is greed that is bad not competition. Creationism is a belief with not scientific underpinnings, so there is zero logic in teaching it as science, but plenty of reason to teach what it is. Why keep people in the dark about it or anything?

Back to what zombyrus was saying, I'm at a similar place in that the meditations and dream threads are the main reason I still stick around this forum. I find you all to be an extremely interesting group of people, and that shows up very well in these threads.

But here is my question: Why do some of you have so much faith in the state as it stands today? Why do you seem to defend our system and how education works? Are you not at all skeptical? Are you really so certain that government runs the way it was intended to? Sure, ideally we would be living under a perfectly benevolent representative government, but it the USA at least, the government is far from representing the will of the people. That seems so painfully obvious I can't even understand why so many of us in the US are still voting at all, other then shear intellectual laziness.

Here, try this on for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Eh, it ain't perfect, what you gonna do, huh, were Americans.