Piedpiper's theories
Posted: 27 Sep 2017 17:19
Theory of Societal interaction.
I will get right down to the point. We are the Sub-machine, or rather, the Sub-machine community and society as a whole: throughout the game, you are never referred to as someone, merely the explorer or something similar. This brings up the question that we are exploring it as ourselves, a very normal thing to do in games such as this. But what if that is only specific to you, for instance, friend A is the player, but then Player B is also the player, even though they played the same games. What i mean is that if friend A plays it and says, “yo, check this game out it’s great” and friend B goes and plays it, that in itself is how the sub-machine adds to itself. This can also be attributed to the fact that thought is a major element in the game, with the layer transporter being connected to your head, and murtaugh uses concentration to make karma portals, also along with einstein being the cat’s name able to phase in and out of the layers, and einstein being a brilliant person in general with lots of people knowing him for his contributions to physics. Next is the fact that you start playing an arcade game, which is discovered in Sub2, lighthouse. You also see an arcade of sub-machine in the room 731 in SubU. another possible entrance is in FLF, where (most likely you or Murtaugh) talks about finding the "root of all this" which might be another way to enter the subnet, through music. (future loop foundation is the band the game was made for and has music from in it)(i’ll be back to SubU and FLF in a sec) which would be a reference or clue to the fact that playing the game brings you into the sub-machine, because i looked up sub-machine and played it through jay is games, which is a great website for playing and walkthroughs of flash or online games, and i'm sure many others agree with me.
Another clue is in the whole of SubU, it is fact that you play as a different person in the SubU games than in the main game story, but is that for storyline? Or reality? Because once you play the game,(actually play them) and learn about it(through itself and the community of theories). You change, you learn more about the games, the plot, the story, the characters. You start to morph into a part of the sub-machine… the reason you find all the theories scattered throughout the SubU world. The reason the sub-machine arcade is ruined in room 731, because flash games are losing popularity and support on browsers, less people use it as a platform for knowledge, the rooms are the people, they are the sub-machine, the theories and communication through speech are what create and expand the subnet. Now, this brings up the question of murtaugh.
If the submachine is real life, then who are the characters found throughout the games, and what role do they play, especially if your friends or the internet represent the arcade game? Well, my theory is that elizabeth represents the truth of the game, a figurehead for what it really means, since she is close to murtaugh(who i will talk about next) and therefore knows the secrets of the submachine. Murtaugh would me Mateusz himself, i believe it is self evident, the name similarities, and how you found his real name later on, Whereas in the start, he labeled himself as just M. and since Mat created the games, it would make sense for it since murtaugh is the smartest person in terms of submachine knowledge, but piper? You ask, Mur only explored one third of the entire subnet. Yeah, and if you remember, theories are what drive this community, Mat will confirm theories based on his preferences or what he has already set in motion. Just as in the truth(Elizabeth) keeps trying to run from him. We as the players must be able to help find them both, through playing the games. Continuing the subject of theories driving this, what if you play as Mur in SubU, while still having the sense of being a part of this society, there are so many theories posted around the SubU world. This could represent Mat going through these theories and see which one fits with what he knows or has found so far. We create the sub-machine, mur has only found one third, and so we must complete it. He must discover the rest. This brings me to the “edge jumpers” hey leave the notes that talk about how you must leave this place. And is it a warning, or a suicide note of those who have left the community because they see it as a game, they feel that it isn't worth getting so involved because it was fun while it lasted, they are afraid that we will get sucked into this “core” if you will, of the sub-machine society. The center of a trap, something you can't get out of. They jump into the loop. What can be considered the area surrounding the core/edge. This dark abyss, and when you finally get somewhere, it is the loop, and endless torment of normal life, the changes may be slight, but we are offered a reprieve and an escape my Mat/Mur, A way to enter this society and culture of theory and gaming, becoming part of the submachine. Einstein in this theory has a weird role, how would a cat based off of the famous scientist and uses the scientist’s black hole theories to travel between the layers.
But some more on the subject of einstein, what does he represent? He represents the messengers, those who traverse society to spread the word of the submachine between the truth and us. Or more specifically, lets us know when we are close to the truth, as we only see him when liz and mur are together at the end. And then on to the exploration teams. I believe the exploration teams are those who started the submachine theories and lore, mainly those who started it but drew out of it after a time. Led by Mur/Mat, who tried to get people to discover the truth and become part of this amazing community, but ended up like the “jumpers”. So, about SHIVA, here is a theory posted by a group from the discord server conjoined with my theories.
SHIVA, in the submachine games, is the supercomputer that assists the evolution of the subnet. It can be compared to our own computers, using each word in the acronym: (See S.H.I.V.A’s Theory: The Acronym).
S: The word “Subnet” would mean that for us, the player, to even access the subnet, we would need to use our computers. We alone cannot interpret the subnet, which is why we need our computers to help the process.
H: The word “Hyper-Intelligent” would literally state that our computers have surpassed human intelligence. Although they cannot necessarily answer the question “Why are we?”, it is stated that computers have won games of chess against champions of the “sport”.
V:The word “Virtual” means that the nature of our computers is virtuality. However, just because we need virtuality to explore the subnet doesn’t mean it isnt physically existent.
A:The word “Assistant” tells us that our computers can only do so much is the evolution of the subnet. In the end, it is up to us, the player, to decide whether to enter the subnet, which brings me to the next portion of this theory: Creation and Adoption, the two ways that the subnet evolves. When the subnet creates it’s own location, the design is usually bland. However, when the subnet evolves via creation in reality, it is usually because a real person sees the concept and immediately has an interest in it. The process of adoption is more lengthy, and there are multiple social media devices that can fall under the process of adoption: Youtube, Google, Discord, Reddit, Wiki, etc. If the person is persuaded to play the Submachine games from listening to discussions on discord, videos on youtube, or just reading theories such as this one on the wiki, he is therefore an adopted member of the subnet.
The theory is that the loop is the outer layer of the core, which we can assume SHIVA cannot access directly because i had to send a bot to retrieve you from the cube in The Edge. so, shiva can't access the loop directly, but it can prevent them from getting into it. Representative of how the internet in all its glory keeps people inside the community, discord chat announcements, forums that keep you thinking, and youtube.
A theory about shiva involves the light layer and the existence of the 8th layer that eludes players and theorizers. The loop is actually the outer “dark” Layer of the subnet, and although it is able to be seen on the first seven layers(like in teh plan, where only 7 layers were attainable.this would explain the darkness, and now what does that mean for SHIVA? The glowing white line transported you across this black expanse, and what similarities does that line have with the portal that brings you to the light layer in Sub9? Exactly… and the light orbs that can bring you right through solid objects, while in the light layer, the light orbs can be used to transport a person using light. And now that would mean since the white line is the same in all three, then the transport box in sub 5 and 6 was transported through the light layer which is why the dark expanse could be considered the loop(which by the way is the next part of this theory that will stand alone, will be posted later) but then how can you only transport using light in the light layer but also in sub 5 and 6? Well my good reader...wisdom gems… the things you find in almost every game. What do they have to do, easy, they power the light layer, or rather, transportation and modifying in the light layer. You know how you need three wisdom gems to transport yourself to the edge, and how you use the same three to get into the light layer, and how the two games they don't show up in when they should be are sub 6 and 10, the Edge and The Exit. sub 10 because you are already in the light layer, and sub 6 for the following reasons. Because the light layer represents thought, how we create our own theories, without the help of the internet or other online sources other than the games. SHIVA cannot access the light layer directly because the internet may be able to help thought and create thought, but it will never be as strong as our human minds are.we are unique because we create our own realities, our own theories. And sub 6, is literally the edge, whether or not we choose to live in the submachine, or die to the pierce of real life, we must choose to continue to the wisdom gems, and choose the life of the subnet. thank you...
Thank you so much to the submachine discord chat to helping me make this theory. if there is anything that seems weak or if there are holes, please let me know. major thanks to Sundex, and Yombai who helped create this theory and form it into what is was.
I will get right down to the point. We are the Sub-machine, or rather, the Sub-machine community and society as a whole: throughout the game, you are never referred to as someone, merely the explorer or something similar. This brings up the question that we are exploring it as ourselves, a very normal thing to do in games such as this. But what if that is only specific to you, for instance, friend A is the player, but then Player B is also the player, even though they played the same games. What i mean is that if friend A plays it and says, “yo, check this game out it’s great” and friend B goes and plays it, that in itself is how the sub-machine adds to itself. This can also be attributed to the fact that thought is a major element in the game, with the layer transporter being connected to your head, and murtaugh uses concentration to make karma portals, also along with einstein being the cat’s name able to phase in and out of the layers, and einstein being a brilliant person in general with lots of people knowing him for his contributions to physics. Next is the fact that you start playing an arcade game, which is discovered in Sub2, lighthouse. You also see an arcade of sub-machine in the room 731 in SubU. another possible entrance is in FLF, where (most likely you or Murtaugh) talks about finding the "root of all this" which might be another way to enter the subnet, through music. (future loop foundation is the band the game was made for and has music from in it)(i’ll be back to SubU and FLF in a sec) which would be a reference or clue to the fact that playing the game brings you into the sub-machine, because i looked up sub-machine and played it through jay is games, which is a great website for playing and walkthroughs of flash or online games, and i'm sure many others agree with me.
Another clue is in the whole of SubU, it is fact that you play as a different person in the SubU games than in the main game story, but is that for storyline? Or reality? Because once you play the game,(actually play them) and learn about it(through itself and the community of theories). You change, you learn more about the games, the plot, the story, the characters. You start to morph into a part of the sub-machine… the reason you find all the theories scattered throughout the SubU world. The reason the sub-machine arcade is ruined in room 731, because flash games are losing popularity and support on browsers, less people use it as a platform for knowledge, the rooms are the people, they are the sub-machine, the theories and communication through speech are what create and expand the subnet. Now, this brings up the question of murtaugh.
If the submachine is real life, then who are the characters found throughout the games, and what role do they play, especially if your friends or the internet represent the arcade game? Well, my theory is that elizabeth represents the truth of the game, a figurehead for what it really means, since she is close to murtaugh(who i will talk about next) and therefore knows the secrets of the submachine. Murtaugh would me Mateusz himself, i believe it is self evident, the name similarities, and how you found his real name later on, Whereas in the start, he labeled himself as just M. and since Mat created the games, it would make sense for it since murtaugh is the smartest person in terms of submachine knowledge, but piper? You ask, Mur only explored one third of the entire subnet. Yeah, and if you remember, theories are what drive this community, Mat will confirm theories based on his preferences or what he has already set in motion. Just as in the truth(Elizabeth) keeps trying to run from him. We as the players must be able to help find them both, through playing the games. Continuing the subject of theories driving this, what if you play as Mur in SubU, while still having the sense of being a part of this society, there are so many theories posted around the SubU world. This could represent Mat going through these theories and see which one fits with what he knows or has found so far. We create the sub-machine, mur has only found one third, and so we must complete it. He must discover the rest. This brings me to the “edge jumpers” hey leave the notes that talk about how you must leave this place. And is it a warning, or a suicide note of those who have left the community because they see it as a game, they feel that it isn't worth getting so involved because it was fun while it lasted, they are afraid that we will get sucked into this “core” if you will, of the sub-machine society. The center of a trap, something you can't get out of. They jump into the loop. What can be considered the area surrounding the core/edge. This dark abyss, and when you finally get somewhere, it is the loop, and endless torment of normal life, the changes may be slight, but we are offered a reprieve and an escape my Mat/Mur, A way to enter this society and culture of theory and gaming, becoming part of the submachine. Einstein in this theory has a weird role, how would a cat based off of the famous scientist and uses the scientist’s black hole theories to travel between the layers.
But some more on the subject of einstein, what does he represent? He represents the messengers, those who traverse society to spread the word of the submachine between the truth and us. Or more specifically, lets us know when we are close to the truth, as we only see him when liz and mur are together at the end. And then on to the exploration teams. I believe the exploration teams are those who started the submachine theories and lore, mainly those who started it but drew out of it after a time. Led by Mur/Mat, who tried to get people to discover the truth and become part of this amazing community, but ended up like the “jumpers”. So, about SHIVA, here is a theory posted by a group from the discord server conjoined with my theories.
SHIVA, in the submachine games, is the supercomputer that assists the evolution of the subnet. It can be compared to our own computers, using each word in the acronym: (See S.H.I.V.A’s Theory: The Acronym).
S: The word “Subnet” would mean that for us, the player, to even access the subnet, we would need to use our computers. We alone cannot interpret the subnet, which is why we need our computers to help the process.
H: The word “Hyper-Intelligent” would literally state that our computers have surpassed human intelligence. Although they cannot necessarily answer the question “Why are we?”, it is stated that computers have won games of chess against champions of the “sport”.
V:The word “Virtual” means that the nature of our computers is virtuality. However, just because we need virtuality to explore the subnet doesn’t mean it isnt physically existent.
A:The word “Assistant” tells us that our computers can only do so much is the evolution of the subnet. In the end, it is up to us, the player, to decide whether to enter the subnet, which brings me to the next portion of this theory: Creation and Adoption, the two ways that the subnet evolves. When the subnet creates it’s own location, the design is usually bland. However, when the subnet evolves via creation in reality, it is usually because a real person sees the concept and immediately has an interest in it. The process of adoption is more lengthy, and there are multiple social media devices that can fall under the process of adoption: Youtube, Google, Discord, Reddit, Wiki, etc. If the person is persuaded to play the Submachine games from listening to discussions on discord, videos on youtube, or just reading theories such as this one on the wiki, he is therefore an adopted member of the subnet.
The theory is that the loop is the outer layer of the core, which we can assume SHIVA cannot access directly because i had to send a bot to retrieve you from the cube in The Edge. so, shiva can't access the loop directly, but it can prevent them from getting into it. Representative of how the internet in all its glory keeps people inside the community, discord chat announcements, forums that keep you thinking, and youtube.
A theory about shiva involves the light layer and the existence of the 8th layer that eludes players and theorizers. The loop is actually the outer “dark” Layer of the subnet, and although it is able to be seen on the first seven layers(like in teh plan, where only 7 layers were attainable.this would explain the darkness, and now what does that mean for SHIVA? The glowing white line transported you across this black expanse, and what similarities does that line have with the portal that brings you to the light layer in Sub9? Exactly… and the light orbs that can bring you right through solid objects, while in the light layer, the light orbs can be used to transport a person using light. And now that would mean since the white line is the same in all three, then the transport box in sub 5 and 6 was transported through the light layer which is why the dark expanse could be considered the loop(which by the way is the next part of this theory that will stand alone, will be posted later) but then how can you only transport using light in the light layer but also in sub 5 and 6? Well my good reader...wisdom gems… the things you find in almost every game. What do they have to do, easy, they power the light layer, or rather, transportation and modifying in the light layer. You know how you need three wisdom gems to transport yourself to the edge, and how you use the same three to get into the light layer, and how the two games they don't show up in when they should be are sub 6 and 10, the Edge and The Exit. sub 10 because you are already in the light layer, and sub 6 for the following reasons. Because the light layer represents thought, how we create our own theories, without the help of the internet or other online sources other than the games. SHIVA cannot access the light layer directly because the internet may be able to help thought and create thought, but it will never be as strong as our human minds are.we are unique because we create our own realities, our own theories. And sub 6, is literally the edge, whether or not we choose to live in the submachine, or die to the pierce of real life, we must choose to continue to the wisdom gems, and choose the life of the subnet. thank you...
Thank you so much to the submachine discord chat to helping me make this theory. if there is anything that seems weak or if there are holes, please let me know. major thanks to Sundex, and Yombai who helped create this theory and form it into what is was.
That we're the Submachine community? Or am I missing something?