Meditations

[Rooster5man]

I guess I'd be cheating for saying I looked up the definition while Ant and I had that discussion

In a nutshell, though, a sport is a competition with fair play, and a game can be "anything goes" - Take Poker or Russian Roulette for example.

[borys610]

Russian roulette, isn't fair-play, because here you really want your opponent to be killed, and looser will always die.

[Rooster5man]

....That was my point. I'll make it clearer then:

Sport - Fair Competition

Game - "anything goes" (i.e. Poker/Russian Roulette)

[Vurn]

What about card *games*?
And all games are about fair competition really, you shouldn't cheat at them, and sport players still really want to win. If I understood what you meant correctly, anyway.

[Rooster5man]

What about card *games*?
And all games are about fair competition really, you shouldn't cheat at them, and sport players still really want to win. If I understood what you meant correctly, anyway.

My point right there: Card Games are easy to cheat at, especially if you're playing against a new player. Poker may be shown on ESPN just because it's difficult to cheat with a hundred cameras around you.

Just because you shouldn't cheat doesn't mean you can't.

Sports, same thing could be said about cheating, but if you're playing a sport, you probably know the rules beforehand - It's difficult to cheat at Chess or Soccer (for example) in that aspect.

[borys610]

But bluff is kind of cheating, but in poker you do it almost always.
Many card games (i.e. bambuko, cygan) consist of cheating.

[Rooster5man]

I don't consider bluffing "cheating," it's not like you took the card out of the deck and made the hand you need to win - You just keep betting more at your own risk.

[borys610]

I was playing poker with guys from my school like a month ago, and one girl was playing with us. We have a talk about rules before, and she said "I want bluff, I don't want to cheat", we laughed her up.
True gentlemen indeed.

[Oleander]

I guess I'd be cheating for saying I looked up the definition while Ant and I had that discussion

Well looking it up kind of ruins the point, because I wanted to know the ideas *you guys specifically* have about these things.

[Rooster5man]

Well, it sort of helped I got the definitions because I never really considered "game" and "sport" to be in the same category after learning Chess is considered "more than a game" (i.e. Sport.)