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So that means that the green energy more powerful than the blue/white energy in karma portals and wisdom gems, bwcause it can go through Layers.
So if you had a liquid form of the green energy and tried to make it into a wisdom gem, you could have something much more powerful, maybe an energy gem?

It could be, I like the idea of wisdom gem matter. I remember the gem harvesting basement-like location from SNEE... I mean, SubVerse... there was a liquid too, right? I thought it was water, but it could be another thing.

So that means that the green energy more powerful than the blue/white energy in karma portals and wisdom gems, bwcause it can go through Layers.
So if you had a liquid form of the green energy and tried to make it into a wisdom gem, you could have something much more powerful, maybe an energy gem?

I thought the same, but energy gems are blue. The Sub0 gem was green, but it looks like it was less powerful when we found it again in Sub5.

So I guess that probably means that you can't make wisdom gems from the green energy.

Well... what if Mur is using the green water as a source to power up his karma arm? It's not exactly a waterfall, but...

It might be possible, but it doesn't account for the blue karma portals. Maybe his karma arm runs on blue energy, and he uses the green energy only occasionally.

I am interested why did Mateusz post exactly this pic... If it contains some spoiler or some important thing for main plot... Why it is posted long time before game's release?


About gems, liquids and waterfall... Whoa, it makes sense...

gemini wrote: Another thing I thought I would point out. The green matter we see, is the same green matter from Sub7, where we use Murtaugh's portal to traverse to Layer 5...

Hmm, that makes sense considering the beamers are meant to open connections between dimensions and locations. That being a pretty solid fact, I wouldn't say that the contaminated waterfall idea is so weird either. If the people in Kent got their water from the river too, maybe that would also explain other people's experiences of getting to other layers? Murtaugh just got a worse exposure.

Mateusz Skutnik wrote:This is the first screen from new Submachine 9.
Take a look: http://www.mateuszskutnik.com/archive/sub-9-scr-1/

Wow... just wow..

Gemini wrote:Activating the beamers, they just don't shoot into the air, they probably have a receptor somewhere. And the fountain we are looking at is that receptor.

This. I believe that is one of the receptors: either the one for the beamer in Layer 4 or the beamer in Layer 7. The green energy is shot into the air/void then transverses and ends at a receptor.

The Kakama wrote:So if you had a liquid form of the green energy and tried to make it into a wisdom gem, you could have something much more powerful, maybe an energy gem?

Something completely different and much more powerful would be more likely.

Anteroinen wrote:

Gemini wrote:One could assume perhaps the crevice we see leads to the waterfall? Like a toxic waste type thing? A hero or villian obtaining their superpowers through toxic waste is a staple of comics. Bane from Batman, for example.

Hmm, that makes sense considering the beamers are meant to open connections between dimensions and locations. That being a pretty solid fact, I wouldn't say that the contaminated waterfall idea is so weird either. If the people in Kent got their water from the river too, maybe that would also explain other people's experiences of getting to other layers? Murtaugh just got a worse exposure.

I don't think so. If that was the case wouldn't people have noticed and stayed away from the waterfall?

Subbot #499 wrote:What about the background?

This is what I believe to be most intriguing within the image. I can't quite make sense of it.

The Abacus wrote:

Anteroinen wrote:

Gemini wrote:One could assume perhaps the crevice we see leads to the waterfall? Like a toxic waste type thing? A hero or villian obtaining their superpowers through toxic waste is a staple of comics. Bane from Batman, for example.

Hmm, that makes sense considering the beamers are meant to open connections between dimensions and locations. That being a pretty solid fact, I wouldn't say that the contaminated waterfall idea is so weird either. If the people in Kent got their water from the river too, maybe that would also explain other people's experiences of getting to other layers? Murtaugh just got a worse exposure.

I don't think so. If that was the case wouldn't people have noticed and stayed away from the waterfall?

Pray tell why? These new worlds had tangible applications. Whatever the method, we know that when the layer structure was found it was immediately exploited to create clever new types of architecture, and that is just one example of the many possibilities these worlds give. These worlds actually, demonstrably, existed. It wasn't as if a couple of people went insane. Further, if the energy got to the water supply through a crack like that, well it would hardly be surprising if it went unnoticed before everyone had been exposed to some degree. People also need to drink and if that was the only water source... hey it didn't kill you.

Anteroinen wrote:

Gemini wrote:One could assume perhaps the crevice we see leads to the waterfall? Like a toxic waste type thing? A hero or villian obtaining their superpowers through toxic waste is a staple of comics. Bane from Batman, for example.

Hmm, that makes sense considering the beamers are meant to open connections between dimensions and locations. That being a pretty solid fact, I wouldn't say that the contaminated waterfall idea is so weird either. If the people in Kent got their water from the river too, maybe that would also explain other people's experiences of getting to other layers? Murtaugh just got a worse exposure.

I don't think so. If that was the case wouldn't people have noticed and stayed away from the waterfall?

Maybe they did. It could be possible that Murtaugh went on his camping trip alone.
But if he didn't, then maybe you could only get affected by such exposure in a certain way. eg. it can only affect you if you had an open wound exposed to it. But if it were a waterfall which gets its energy from the beamers, then the waterfall should be dry when the beamers deactivate, and we don't know if the beamers were activated when Murtaugh went on his trip, unless there was a reservoir of the stuff.
And also this:

Further, if the energy got to the water supply through a crack like that, well it would hardly be surprising if it went unnoticed before everyone had been exposed to some degree. People also need to drink and if that was the only water source... hey it didn't kill you.

What about the background?

The background looks a bit like temple ruins, or maybe a destroyed wall.