Re: Submachine 10 Theories and Suggestions
Posted: 05 Jun 2014 23:56
And Layer 3 would be where we, the Player, were located in space-time from Sub 1-Sub 7, correct? I.E. Until the BGKP (Big Green Karma Portal) "changed our direction", right? Or am I missing something?WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:Not all of it is repaired. Murtuagh never got around to fixing Layer 3, where he is originally from.Pulsaris wrote:If the collapse is repaired, then why are there black voids in sub4-7?
EDIT: Then how does that explain the same black voids of Layers 1, 3, and 6, from Sub 8?
(Layer 1, The Dock, has a black void background.
Layer 2, the Cardinal Church, has a space void background filled with stars - not a true black void background - and what appears to be A SUN, with a weird orange cloudy cosmic flow of a sky.
Layer 3, The Cog Trees, has the black void background.
Layer 4, the Large Sewers, has an unknown outside background, so it could be anything outside the "endless" pipes.
Layer 5, The Water Pantheon of Sub 8, and by extension, the Temple of Sub 9, as well as the apparent entirety of The Knot which the Temple is located in, has a purple hazy sky background.
Layer 6, the Armory, has a black void background, which you can see if you look at the window where the barrel of the cannon is poking out of.
Layer 7, the Bamboo Town, has a pure milky white-sky background.)
IMO that karma portal inside image is actually the portal from the outside. The ring of circles being the boundaries of the portal (the "walls" if you will), while the blue line inside it is our path through the portal. The blue "bulge" going down the line would be us, the Player, travelling inside it to the other side. Seems accurate, given that Submachine is us looking at the world from a side view! Case in point: The various pipes and narrow passages we all went through the games in (Sub 2, Sub 5, Sub 6, Sub 8, Sub 9) are all seen from the outside. Therefore, the Karma Portal insides are also seen from the outside view, looking in.WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:Again, I don't see that being the case:OnyxIonVortex wrote: Though you and Worlds can argue that (in which I already specified earlier) Murtaugh was holding onto his Karma Arm that allow him to be in multiple Layers at the same time.
This is inside a Karma Portal
Such as an example being from Submachine 7, when we first use them, we only use them when there is an obstacle in the way. Like the lock door.
But if there were a fraction of himself in all 7 layers, it allowed him to get around obstacle in the way. He just had to focus himself in a neighboring layer with a physical location where the obstacle is not in another layer. Like we had to do in order to progress in Submachine 8 with the navigator.
I don't quite recall reading that...WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:It was actually mention in Submachine 8, in a secret Note.- ak - wrote:Yes, Mateusz did say that there's only one Murtaugh. Then Worlds brought up an interesting question that there could be "copy" of him or at least "part" of him in the other Layers.
I don't follow. You mean that the Karma Portals (sorta excluding the Big Green Karma Portal of Sub 7) are localized in their own layer, while other layers' Karma Portals only take you to places in them? Like, say, if I were to go in a Karma Portal in Layer 5, it couldn't take me to another location in Layer 7 or any of the other 8 layers?WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:Yes that person is right, all of the Layer/Dimension are not the original, but Murtuagh was originally from the 3rd layer, was he not? But I think he/she mean when he/she says "What more important - The original or the flawed copy?" I think he/she was talking about Murtaugh, not the Layers. We just assumed that is what he/she meant until Submachine 9 came out and showed us that Murtuagh was originally from the 3rd Layer.Dimensions wrote:
- Doesn't he understand that his karma portals are shattering this dimension?
- This dimension? You mean the third one? You know that's not even the original dimension, right? What do you think is more important - the origin or the flawed copy?