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Sublevel 102 wrote:

The Kakama wrote:It could be possible that Liz added the ladder

2) If something has similar design/material, it doesn't mean it has connection.

When did I say this?
I just pointed out the not seven layer bullets next to a ladder.
Thats all.
At least the bullets never reach them in the first place.

WiQ wrote:When did I say this?

You never did. In fact the only thing you did say in your previous post was, "Liz Ship," so we had to infer what you were trying to say. Because of the current discussion, Sublevel thought you were saying that Liz installed the ladder because they were similar to the ones in her ship.

Lyds wrote:The ladder doesn't actually have any real connection to any part of the pyramid. There is no room that has the same golden metal design.

I thought it was just part of the underlying frame of the building with metal sheets bolted so that a ladder could be installed. This can be likened to the way the entrance/exit of an Ancient Egyptian pyramid would be closed upon completion, except here it has been done (and undone) instead with interior passages.

Speaking of the ladder in Sub9 and how it's behind the walls:
Isn't it odd how much of the pyramid is damaged? It makes you wonder what happened there...
I am assuming that at one point a large amount of resin found its way into the pyramid and temple, but I don't think it would have been capable of causing such destruction. It seems almost as if someone broke into the pyramid and was desperately searching for something. Maybe it was the tombs: if you go to Murtaugh's tomb, you'll notice that the grating of the entrance to the underground passage is completely removed, and even more interesting, that the bars of the grating in front of Murtaugh's tomb have been cut and bent open by force. I think that this has some significance otherwise Mateusz would have made us find some way to get past the gratings (like sub5 with the brick wall).

WiQ wrote:When did I say this?

The Abacus wrote:Because of the current discussion, Sublevel thought you were saying that Liz installed the ladder because they were similar to the ones in her ship.

...I thought? O_o

I think I answered to absolutely different person... (I even quoted him in my last post!)

The Abacus wrote: Isn't it odd how much of the pyramid is damaged? It makes you wonder what happened there...
I am assuming that at one point a large amount of resin found its way into the pyramid and temple, but I don't think it would have been capable of causing such destruction. It seems almost as if someone broke into the pyramid and was desperately searching for something. Maybe it was the tombs: if you go to Murtaugh's tomb, you'll notice that the grating of the entrance to the underground passage is completely removed, and even more interesting, that the bars of the grating in front of Murtaugh's tomb have been cut and bent open by force. I think that this has some significance otherwise Mateusz would have made us find some way to get past the gratings (like sub5 with the brick wall).

Wow
You made me think about that...

Lyds wrote:Okay, something I just noticed while replaying..

The ladder doesn't actually have any real connection to any part of the pyramid. There is no room that has the same golden metal design. In fact, the walls in front of the ladder look like they had to be broken to reveal it, like the ladder was hidden behind the walls. This gives me the idea that the whole design of the pyramid is really just decoration built on top of metal structure (like the ladder). It's really just some metal Submachine structure underneath. What if all Submachines really just look like metal boxes, and all the architecture is kind of added on top somehow?
Thoughts?

The ladder is brass, so it's natural to think that it's from the same people who made all the brasswares.

WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:Liz ship.

Or Sub8 layer5.

@Bloodhit: *layer 4

But I think it doesn't mean anything. All this hasn't connection.

But we know that the temple is a loop/knot, where all layers are mixed, so it only means that ladder from part of the layer 4 that was in sub8, like red part of temple is similar to layer 2 from sub8.

Bronze ladders are everywhere so human beings can move aorund.

End of story. gg wp no re

ThunderDasher wrote:Bronze ladders are everywhere so human beings can move aorund.

End of story. gg wp no re

That's not even going into the "ladders" in the Mainframe/Turret Chain portion of Sub 6, which are supposedly made for the "subbots". Those same ones can also be seen in SNEE in a few locations IIRC...

Lyds wrote:Okay, something I just noticed while replaying..

The ladder doesn't actually have any real connection to any part of the pyramid. There is no room that has the same golden metal design. In fact, the walls in front of the ladder look like they had to be broken to reveal it, like the ladder was hidden behind the walls. This gives me the idea that the whole design of the pyramid is really just decoration built on top of metal structure (like the ladder). It's really just some metal Submachine structure underneath. What if all Submachines really just look like metal boxes, and all the architecture is kind of added on top somehow?
Thoughts?

Of course, Submachine is all machine, is just that some civilizations decided to make their own decorations upon it. The cult maked such spiritualistic places for example. Remember Sub8, Layer 5? They are wires in the top section. When I saw them I knew the things work like that.

In the Winter Palace and The South Gardens there is even machines, like the one that rises the stairs, or the one the turns on the portal doors.

As you can see, all the screens are cubical and what makes them like that is the Plan, thats how they can fit perfectly.