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Re: Meditations

Posted: 04 Feb 2013 23:56
by Rooster5man
like the ones that keep you from seeing a movie, because it has some religious things you don't like. Or something that you don't believe, because it is kept out of your mind because of some thought that prevent you from believing it.
Look at all the "you"'s. You're giving Ant characteristics he may not even have. Free thinkers look at the big picture i.e. this "floor" you keep referring to.

Yes, we have things holding us back, that makes us human. But tell me what that has to do with your characterizations of Ant (and the rest of us) not seeing the big picture.

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 00:01
by WorldisQuiet5256
I agree it is good to not have boarders to block your vision when investigating beliefs and imaging new possibilities, and if your "floor" is that which has been confirmed by reason, observation, and corroboration, that is a good floor. The thing is, again, this is no different then what most of us believe in. So why do you act as if it is so mystical and epic, as if you alone among humanity has this vision? That seems a very arrogant position to take and very loaded with the bias that you alone have this vision.
I'm not saying only I have it. I Only met one other person who know what I know. Again, this truth has no Words that says it. Only some work such as Edgar Allan Poe work shows it. Or that song I keep posting too, plus some other work shows it. But it still only gives a fraction of that Truth. The whole Truth can only be understood in the Mind.

Trust me, every time I think about it, it can only be understood when I think about it. But every time I try to describe it, I just get lost on how to say it.
Yes, we have things holding us back, that makes us human. But tell me what that has to do with your characterizations of Ant (and the rest of us) not seeing the big picture.
Again, I'm not characterizing you. I can only work with your post. And all I keep seeing in your post is the Human thought known as "Bias" that keeps you from seeing this Truth.

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 00:06
by Rooster5man
You barely know us, you can't say you know us completely and our thoughts. As Red and I have been saying, we all have this "floor," what makes you believe only a few people have it? Now THAT is stereotyping and bias to believe we don't see the big picture.

You don't have to work with my singular post, you can work with what you've seen of me throughout your time on the Forum. Have I not shared my view of the big picture? I don't see any bias whatsoever in my post, please help me to find what bias or stereotype I may have made.

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 00:15
by WorldisQuiet5256
Rooster5man wrote:You barely know us, you can't say you know us completely and our thoughts. As Red and I have been saying, we all have this "floor," what makes you believe only a few people have it? Now THAT is stereotyping and bias to believe we don't see the big picture.

You don't have to work with my singular post, you can work with what you've seen of me throughout your time on the Forum. Have I not shared my view of the big picture? I don't see any bias whatsoever in my post, please help me to find what bias or stereotype I may have made.
Where is this coming from? I never saying That only certain people know it. I swear, if I been on this post just to to help see this truth. You have your floor, but now you have to "look around".
you can't say you know us completely and our thoughts.
No, I meant the exact opposite of that. I said "I don't know all of you completely. All I have to work with in teaching you the way of finding this truth is these post". I can't just give the truth to you, Because it would require me typing it all out for you. And I keep saying this truth can't be Completely Describe in Words.

Seriously, every time I Post something in this Meditation Thread I am not trying to be Bias, or Smug, or bragging 24/7. I keep responding to your post, because when you guys keep asking, I keep trying to help you. Now don't take that last sentences as I am trying to help you like there something wrong with you. Just as you keep asking and I try to keep Guiding.

I not trying to make it look like I am saying I'm better or wiser than you. I am trying to type this Post without bias. The only time I did is when I got into a rage.

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 00:46
by WorldisQuiet5256
Hello?

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 01:08
by WorldisQuiet5256
Anyone there?

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 02:08
by Redafro
I don't know what to say to you anymore. Your seem to basically be making a knowledge claim, saying we don't have that knowledge, and that you can't explain it to us. What more is there to say?

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 02:16
by WorldisQuiet5256
Redafro wrote:I don't know what to say to you anymore. Your seem to basically be making a knowledge claim, saying we don't have that knowledge, and that you can't explain it to us. What more is there to say?
I'm not saying that! I'm nor saying that! I'm not Saying that! :shock: :?: :!: I never meant for it to sound like I'm calling anyone dumb. I'm just saying the Whole Truth can't be told to you cause I don't know any word that tells what that truth is.

I swear (with my right hand raised up) that I not calling anyone dumb, stupid, or any of that. Trust me, if anything you are, its the exact opposite of that. Everyone has theories or idea about the Submachine cause I don't have any new ideas what so ever. I rarely have theories. I envy everyone who can. :(

I really don't know whats going on with the translator. Something gone wrong, I never even tried to say that. I never try to put you down. I despises that kind of thing. If I offended anyone, I apologies. I never meant for you to think I was insulting you.

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 02:19
by WorldisQuiet5256
Dear Subgods! HELP ME!

Re: Meditations

Posted: 05 Feb 2013 02:20
by WorldisQuiet5256
I'm Sorry!