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Re: Meditations
Posted: 31 Jan 2013 21:40
by WorldisQuiet5256
Anteroinen wrote:WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:Borders, as in things that shape how you view the world, and parts of things that you believe is impossible, simple cause their is no proof of them.
If that is your definition of a border, then you have things things that shape it. You obviously have clear opinions but that is not all. You have your senses.
As for believing things that without proof... that's a really poor way to gather knowledge. If you truly had no borders, no things shaping your knowledge, you would believe absolutely everything. And yet you most obviously don't believe, for instance, that we could ever understand you. From another point of view, if you can't gather enough evidence for your claim for it to be convincing, then you have no business wondering why others reject such a claim.
Absence of evidence is piss-poor evidence, and while it is not evidence of absence, it is a reason to reject a claim.
I not saying you guys will never understand, you just have to expand your mind. Why else do you think I am trying to help understand. If you see this a me teasing you, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. It is possible, you just have to take the boards from you border and use them to expand and eventually free your mind.
The borders can't be accurately describe for everyone with one example. It what ever hold you back in you seat.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 31 Jan 2013 21:49
by Anteroinen
WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:
I not saying you guys will never understand, you just have to expand your mind. Why else do you think I am trying to help understand. If you see this a me teasing you, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. It is possible, you just have to take the boards from you border and use them to expand and eventually free your mind.
The borders can't be accurately describe for everyone with one example. It what ever hold you back in you seat.
Well, perhaps it would be easier to understand these borders or boards on the windows with an example from you. Could you name one border you've torn down?
EDIT: And preferably further explain how this opened your horizons further.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 31 Jan 2013 22:30
by WorldisQuiet5256
I logically thought out how it is possible to enter a Black Hole and live.
If it was impossible to enter a black hole and lived, what you be describing is a wall. If its a funnel its enter-able.
If you enter a black hole you would be stretch out like a noodle. Well...build a type of ship that can emit on the outside a reverse of the effect of a black hole so it can stabilizes you and the ship.
From there on it gets complicated, but it still possible.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 31 Jan 2013 22:48
by Oleander
You are saying right now that it is possible to break a physical law of the universe. Why do you think gravity is negotiable?
Black holes are solid objects anyway.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 31 Jan 2013 23:57
by WorldisQuiet5256
You are saying right now that it is possible to break a physical law of the universe. Why do you think gravity is negotiable?
No what we know now, is my floor, its the only thing that keep me from being lost. But things such as black hole, and thing we still yet to learn, possibly are endless.
Black holes are solid objects anyway.
Then why is it called a HOLE?
BUM BUM, BUUUM
Re: Meditations
Posted: 01 Feb 2013 00:00
by bender
Because they strech the space-time a lot.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 01 Feb 2013 00:03
by Vortex
bender wrote:Because they strech the space-time a lot.
Bender's right.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 01 Feb 2013 00:05
by WorldisQuiet5256
So there Your Door.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 01 Feb 2013 00:09
by The Abacus
Anteroinen wrote:As for believing things that without proof... that's a really poor way to gather knowledge. If you truly had no borders, no things shaping your knowledge, you would believe absolutely everything. And yet you most obviously don't believe, for instance, that we could ever understand you.
That's not necessarily true. You wouldn't believe everything, you would see whether something is reliable source of knowledge or not then choose whether to receive it as a new piece of knowledge.
Anteroinen wrote:Absence of evidence is piss-poor evidence, and while it is not evidence of absence, it is a reason to reject a claim.
Anteroinen has a point, you haven't provided any clear evidence (I didn't understand the only example you gave).
WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:So there Your Door.
I don't understand the connection.
Re: Meditations
Posted: 01 Feb 2013 00:19
by Vortex
WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:So there Your Door.
Huh? a door?
*knock knock*
But what Bender said is true. Also iirc, before Wheeler popularized the term, it was called dark star.