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Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 20:24
by Babylon
What is Knot? Where it is? Is it Plan area or Temple?
Isn't the plan the same thing as the knot? Where are the layers intertwine.
EDIT:
Murtaugh went to the Knot where all seven Layers converge and saw the kind of chaos and destruction that he unintentionally wrought all these years ago from the Lighthouse and the Core. He never saw anything like that over all of these years because he's always in all seven Layers at the same time. It was when he arrived at the Knot that he fully understood what has happened and fell to his knees in disbelief and grief. Liz then approached him to talk things over, protecting Mur from being killed by victims of the Collapse.
Murtaugh then spent his final years fixing and repairing all seven Layers from collapsing any further, though he was unable to restore the Third Layer, his home Layer, to its former glory. All he could do was to stabilize the whole Layer. That's why the Karma Portals we used in Sub_7 didn't caused the entire dimension to collapse because Murtaugh already stabilize the whole Layer to keep it from deteriorating. Mur soon died of old age, regretting deeply about what he has done, the kind of chaos and death that he accidentally wrought until he experienced a vision from Shiva about the future of Submachine. He soon died in peace, indicating that the Submachine Network may survive and possibly thrive once again sometime in the future. The people and Liz soon buried him underneath the Temple in his honor.
Then Liz took up the mantle of Murtaugh to resume his work, making sure that the Submachine Network remain as it is before her death. The people soon buried her next to Murtaugh under the Temple.
Years has passed and the Submachine remains as it is, stabilized yet not quite as whole as it was in its former glory.
Oh my gosh, this is so useful
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 20:41
by gil2455526
- ak - wrote:No no no no no no no to many of you all
Except you, Subbot# 499. You're right about that.
Murtaugh went to the Knot where all seven Layers converge and saw the kind of chaos and destruction that he unintentionally wrought all these years ago from the Lighthouse and the Core. He never saw anything like that over all of these years because he's always in all seven Layers at the same time. It was when he arrived at the Knot that he fully understood what has happened and fell to his knees in disbelief and grief. Liz then approached him to talk things over, protecting Mur from being killed by victims of the Collapse.
Murtaugh then spent his final years fixing and repairing all seven Layers from collapsing any further, though he was unable to restore the Third Layer, his home Layer, to its former glory. All he could do was to stabilize the whole Layer. That's why the Karma Portals we used in Sub_7 didn't caused the entire dimension to collapse because Murtaugh already stabilize the whole Layer to keep it from deteriorating. Mur soon died of old age, regretting deeply about what he has done, the kind of chaos and death that he accidentally wrought until he experienced a vision from Shiva about the future of Submachine. He soon died in peace, indicating that the Submachine Network may survive and possibly thrive once again sometime in the future. The people and Liz soon buried him underneath the Temple in his honor.
Then Liz took up the mantle of Murtaugh to resume his work, making sure that the Submachine Network remain as it is before her death. The people soon buried her next to Murtaugh under the Temple.
Years has passed and the Submachine remains as it is, stabilized yet not quite as whole as it was in its former glory.
That's the story as it was implied in Sub_9
This deserves to be on Mur's page on the wiki.
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 20:54
by Lyds
What is Knot? Where it is? Is it Plan area or Temple?
This is still kind of confusing me.. I would think the Temple would be the knot, since all the layers really come together there. It's basically the same in every layer. But consensus seems to be that the Plan is the Knot..? If the Plan is the knot, then what does that make the Temple?
Also, hi guys, new member here
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 21:00
by Sublevel 114
OnyxIonVortex wrote:AK is always the best at explaining :D
This is why I always think he is actually Mur himself. XD
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 21:01
by Babylon
Hey, welcome!
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 23:02
by ENIHCAMBUS
Well, we don't know if the Knot was planned.
And I think Submachine Universe shows the Submachine as for nowdays, after the plot and stuff.
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 23:12
by Vortex
ENIHCAMBUS wrote:Well, we don't know if the Knot was planned.
And I think Submachine Universe shows the Submachine as for nowdays, after the plot and stuff.
I wouldn't count much on that, remember the Sanctuary.
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 23:23
by ENIHCAMBUS
OnyxIonVortex wrote:ENIHCAMBUS wrote:Well, we don't know if the Knot was planned.
And I think Submachine Universe shows the Submachine as for nowdays, after the plot and stuff.
I wouldn't count much on that, remember the Sanctuary.
That was a promotion for Sub7. Now its different. >:p
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 16 Mar 2014 23:34
by Anteroinen
Lyds wrote:What is Knot? Where it is? Is it Plan area or Temple?
This is still kind of confusing me.. I would think the Temple would be the knot, since all the layers really come together there. It's basically the same in every layer. But consensus seems to be that the Plan is the Knot..? If the Plan is the knot, then what does that make the Temple?
Also, hi guys, new member here
You and a few others seem to have this misconception that plan is an area, like you could go out of the plan in some way. Because if our understanding of the plan is even close to accurate that is not possible. At least in the same semantic realm it has here.
The plan is not a place, the plan has places forming it. The plan is the fact that layers intertwine, that they have locations in the same geotags and the there exist places on each layer. It is a type of interdimensional architecture, not a location of its own. The plan might not be perfect in that there might be holes with nothing in them, but that in and off itself doesn't mean places can be outside of the plan per se, just that they don't conform to the plan.
The knot is a much more poorly understood concept, and although my gut feeling says it is the section 9 we explored in Sub8, the temple and the pyramid seem like a more likely answer.
Also, welcome, it is nice to see new blood seep in, so to say.
Re: Submachine 9: the Temple
Posted: 17 Mar 2014 00:05
by ShadowNiL
New Blood =/= First Blood.
But all that aside, welcome to the forum!