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Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 16:53
by RuloCore
Vurn wrote:
OnyxIonVortex wrote:It's not about being *logical* or anything. It's about everyone using the same kind of format to avoid confusion.
RuloCore wrote:But isn't it more logical as we do, from less to more time range?
First the day, then the month and then the year.
Hello Logic?
When you write a number like 1792, the base value of each digit is decreasing. As in, the 1 at the beginning means a thousand, while 2 at the end means just two. How is that logical?
Forget the base values, 1792 years is more than 27 days. There are 12 different 27ths, one for every month, and there are infinite februaries, one for every year. So, days belong to months, who belong to years. dd/mm/yyyy. From less time ranges to more (a day is shorter than a month which is shorter than a year). We can establish relations between these time periods, but if we did for "1792" (numbers) we would need to say: "2 of the ninth ten of the seventh hundreds of the first thousand" (well, in spanish this example is more effective, because packs of 10 and 100 have different language terminations than the numbers 10 and 100). So, that's why for numbers is better put it as you said, but with dates is easier: "this day of this month of this year".

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:05
by Anteroinen
I meant that since we read from left to right in most countries, the first thing we see has more impact in the eye. But the effect is minimal.
Oh, you always write 1.3.2013 then?

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:07
by Vortex
Anteroinen wrote:Oh, you always write 1.3.2013 then?
Yes... why?

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:10
by Vurn
OnyxIonVortex wrote: Anyways, it's not likely that people will follow it, because they aren't used to it and wouldn't want to change their way of writing, and because it was meant as an international standard for organizations rather than for general use.
Pretty sure all computer clocks use it. And I started using it too :P

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:15
by Vortex
Vurn wrote:
OnyxIonVortex wrote: Anyways, it's not likely that people will follow it, because they aren't used to it and wouldn't want to change their way of writing, and because it was meant as an international standard for organizations rather than for general use.
Pretty sure all computer clocks use it. And I started using it too :P
Yeah, computers use it because sorting by alphabetical order is made easier (thanks Wikipedia!). And I don't negate the usefulness of having a convention when talking to people from different countries.
But if for example I go to a friend of mine and try to convince him of the benefits of putting the dates in reverse, I could tell where would he send me XD

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:37
by Anteroinen
OnyxIonVortex wrote:
Anteroinen wrote:Oh, you always write 1.3.2013 then?
Yes... why?
Seriously? You never use 1.3? What is this madness?
Pretty sure all computer clocks use it.
In the software I presume?

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:41
by Vortex
Anteroinen wrote:
OnyxIonVortex wrote:
Anteroinen wrote:Oh, you always write 1.3.2013 then?
Yes... why?
Seriously? You never use 1.3? What is this madness?
Why is that so strange? XD

Anteroinen wrote:
Pretty sure all computer clocks use it.
In the software I presume?
Yeah, it's built into the command windows and such.

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 17:59
by Anteroinen
OnyxIonVortex wrote:
Anteroinen wrote:Seriously? You never use 1.3? What is this madness?
Why is that so strange? XD
Because that is almost never done in here, at least in casual contexts. That is, people usually omit the year.

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 18:24
by Vortex
Well, here we don't omit the year so often, and when we do we just say/write it in complete form, like "the 18 of June".

EDIT: man we're so off-topic :P

Re: Discuss the Avatar

Posted: 01 Mar 2013 18:27
by Vurn
It's General Discussion. We're allowed to be off topic here.