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Vortex wrote:he can just invent one and it's canon

That is probably what he does, almost everytime.

And that's bad? it's what every story writer does, almost by definition

Vortex wrote:And that's bad? it's what every story writer does, almost by definition

I didn't say it was bad, but it might create inconsistencies.

Well, yeah, that's a possible problem. But there is often a workaround explanation, in the worst cases I guess Mateusz could resort to retconning (which is something I don't like by norm).

Can someone help explain what exactly happened during the Collapse?

Well, according to Sub7 the collapse was just the result of Murtaugh's "unfocused" karma portals. Especially relevant is this note:

It's no wonder they wanted to bury this whole lighthouse with him still inside.

The collapse death toll was growing exponentionally.

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Jatsko wrote:Can someone help explain what exactly happened during the Collapse?

Everything turned into oxygen and gravity.

-Explains how we can breathe in the void and not float away-

death toll here is humans' deaths?

It's no wonder they wanted to bury this whole lighthouse with him still inside.

The collapse death toll was growing exponentionally.

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That's all I know about it too. And what exactly collapsed? The reason I've asked is that I've heard it discussed before as a single event that happened at some point.

Unless it's more just the gradual degradation of the Subnet over time due to the karma portals?

ALSO:

Which Submachines do we know take place in what layers, and how do we know?

I think it's gradual.

About layers: Sub8 and Sub9, obviously. (Most of) Sub7 seems to take part in Layer 1. I don't know about the other games, they may all very well be in different layers.