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Error_3113 wrote:Normally I would say the same, however FLFHD is different in that it's buy-only. I figured it's been long enough that we can put it on the Wiki, but I would still like to give it an extra layer of protection for the time being, and maybe take that off in a month or two.

Excuse me? That game has been out for almost a half a year already, it has long since passed the spoiler territory and – indeed – become yesterday's news a long time ago. Even here, discussion about the subject has become scant and we are the huge fans. Even if we were to do spoilers, even a month is definitely a long time for something to be a spoiler, in my opinion.

I mean, the types of people who come to read Wikis instead of actually playing the games ever are really few and far between, so the monetary incentive for Mateusz is not very big. But even if it was... in the end, we have no obligation to work as Mateusz's bodyguards, in fact, it is arguable that the Wiki should be driving its own agenda, considering what the Wiki is here for. We aren't an advert for Mateusz.

[From a more practical standpoint: who is going to take off the spoilers? Especially if they are purposefully left on for months on end. Like, suppose there was a spoiler on some Wiki page for info about Sub8, how unprofessional that would make us look? Our Wiki has very little editing activity outside of the days when new info has just been released, so this is clearly an issue that needs to be considered. Not everything can be remembered after seven months.]

Forgive me for not realizing the game's been out for that long. I guess what it comes down to is my lack of knowledge. I'm a 5 gen. I've only been active on the forum from the release of Sub9. In truth I haven't been around long enough, both for Submachine and game wikis in general, to know about the rules and regulations you guys set in place.

Also, I guess it's been hard to notice how popular the forum really is when I've been wrapped up so deeply in it for months.

I walked into the FLF page project with only the thought of protecting Mat as an artist, but I now think I shouldn't be the one saying how to "guard" his work. This is someone else's decision.

Anteroinen wrote:

Error_3113 wrote:Normally I would say the same, however FLFHD is different in that it's buy-only. I figured it's been long enough that we can put it on the Wiki, but I would still like to give it an extra layer of protection for the time being, and maybe take that off in a month or two.

Excuse me? That game has been out for almost a half a year already, it has long since passed the spoiler territory and – indeed – become yesterday's news a long time ago. Even here, discussion about the subject has become scant and we are the huge fans. Even if we were to do spoilers, even a month is definitely a long time for something to be a spoiler, in my opinion.

I mean, the types of people who come to read Wikis instead of actually playing the games ever are really few and far between, so the monetary incentive for Mateusz is not very big. But even if it was... in the end, we have no obligation to work as Mateusz's bodyguards, in fact, it is arguable that the Wiki should be driving its own agenda, considering what the Wiki is here for. We aren't an advert for Mateusz.

[From a more practical standpoint: who is going to take off the spoilers? Especially if they are purposefully left on for months on end. Like, suppose there was a spoiler on some Wiki page for info about Sub8, how unprofessional that would make us look? Our Wiki has very little editing activity outside of the days when new info has just been released, so this is clearly an issue that needs to be considered. Not everything can be remembered after seven months.]

Alright, you made your point. We'll leave spoilers off the wiki. You're right, we aren't bodyguards of Mateusz, more historians than anything.

Anteroinen, sorry if my last post sounded too serious. I was pretty tired last night. I made the modifications to the Wiki this morning, because it really shouldn't be that big of a deal. Hopefully that's all cleared up.

Another question: I'm not going to be adding HD pictures to the Wiki anymore, but I was wondering if I could finish up HD files of Items and Objects? It would be nice to round that out. (Also to add FLFHD items)

Yes, I would like to have them (Specialy Sub2 ones), to make huge collage of Submachine items.

Question

User 'Mocha2007andcoco' uploaded some items (ex. transmitter, glowing box, keys, etc.) from Sub7 a while back that are currently being used on the I+O page. While the files are in great detail they are huge in both actual size and in file size and don't exactly fit the same vein as the other items as far as presentation. Should I overwrite these files too to make everything more uniform?

Of course, it should be uniform.

Alright, will do tomorrow. All other items are updated.
(I'm thinking a mosaic or mandala with each item at some point? )

Also, I'm thinking about putting pictures from the frames in both-FLF-related pages. Good?

Error_3113 wrote:Also, I'm thinking about putting pictures from the frames in both-FLF-related pages. Good?

I don't think thats necesary, I find them Irrevelant to the Submachine lore and are just proper content of the game itself, which is a tribute to FLF/Mateusz life.

The ones in Subnet have more significance to the lore (Maybe except 316 and GLX)

You could put in one as an example, but I don't think it is necessary to have them all.