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borys610 wrote:And to be honest, I hate memorizing, but it is impossible to learn anything without it. Understanding is more important, and the most important is ability to use your knowledge, when it is needed.
like this:
1-memorizing-simple science/physics formula - s:t=V
2-understanding - Why is it like this? What does it mean? How can we use it?
3-using - in real life calculating speed of something

You cant do anything without remembering formula.
And it is like this in almost every subject.
Including learning languages.
Excluding p-e.
Not exactly. The important thing is not the formula, letters are just placeholders. The important thing is the solving problems process, you might not remember the formula but you would know how to solve a problem. You don't even have to define the underlying concepts, you don't even have to know what velocity is, though it helps to solve problems, but it isn't completely necessary. Like how to do P.E. you don't need to know what a muscle is, though it helps.
At least that's my view, for example I have bad memory for formulas but I am skilled in the process of deducing them, so I never study for Physics exams or Maths exams but I always get a 10/10, when I need some specific formula I deduce it.

This is... err... I remember there were two types of memory, the events memory and the process memory. This would be the second one, and it's all that one needs most of the time, at least with this kind of subjects.

For other things (vocabulary, names, dates...) only the event memory works because there's no process involved.
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I must agree.
I'm not learning this kind of things too.
I hate momorizing too.
I have big problems with remembering dates, names, numbers, and rest of this stuff.

But while going through Internet, or just looking on normal people in Poland... I'm terrified.
There are people who does not basic, basic, absolutely basic things.
Like capital of Lithuania. Or what does "pardon" mean in french. Or when was Poland made into a country.
They have also problems with memoraizing anything in normal live. Like adres's. Or homework.
They also doesn't read anything. Even adult when have choice of reading instruction, or calling the shop, they will call the shop.
Sometimes I think that only way to make them think is this mindles memorizing and discipline.


Also... this thread is for grumbling right?
So today I found bum sleeping in my staircase. And other one begging for money (for little beer as he sad) outside the shop. At least they weren't agressive, like some of them.
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Yes,I guess memorizing plays a big part at the introduction of a concept,but aftwr that,you need to understand to move on.
For my moral subject,sadly moving on to elaboration also means memorizing.
As for history,I think the syllabus in Malaysia has severe regional bias.
Eg.For my year,4 chapters on the founding of Islam and it's spread across the region,but only 1 chapter on europe,no chapter on the americas(in fact,we may never know of ancient american civilisations,world war 1,cold war)
Is this my final form?
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I think history books in most places are probably biased to some extent. After all, they do have authors.
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My history teacher says our country is low on history resources.
Is this my final form?
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Well, in Poland we have usually pretty thick history-books, and it almost never problem, when we and a year, and still have much things to do. So we do it next year... if it is not the end of school, when we move to another "higher-level" school in different place.
So basicly in Poland we almost never talk about history of XX century. In my old school one group ended on Napoleon's wars. So yeah, there are more and more people who don't know anything about WW's. Or even who was Stalin, or Chruszczow. Or Jaruzelski. Or what was war in Korea about.
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I think history books in most places are probably biased to some extent.
Bias is all around us.

It is important to know about history as it tells us how modern society has become the way it is today. As for the memoristion: it is necessary to a certain extent. We should know when an important historical event occurred, but I don't believe we should memorise every single detail of history and its dates and details (unless you're planning on becoming a historian).
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Yeah, I also think it's good to be aware that something important happened in some general place in time, but I don't really think specific dates are as important.
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Dates are definitely not that important. Knowing the event happened and the causes and consequences of it is important.

Also, yes all history textbooks are biased. Lot of times the historians try to remain unbiased but as I've learned in college (and this point gets stated way way too much) the only thing we learn about, if not stated otherwise, is wealthy white men history. Yeah, we learn about the African slaves or the Muslim conflicts or whatever, but if it doesn't say the race/monetary status/religion on it, it is always rich white men who are more often than not Christians. It's what you learn about in American history or European history. Those happen to be the most thoroughly taught parts to American history classes.

And slightly off topic but back a couple pages: Theta:
I've had some pretty hardcore headaches this weekend. I get them pretty much every other day but it's particularly bad recently. Not fun at all.
Have you had a change in diet (or since it happened before but just not as much, an increase in part of your diet)? Have you been sleeping well or waking up rather stiff? Did you get jarred around somewhere?
Often times things like this are because of either something you eat or because your neck/upper back is out of place. Usually tied in with the second one is really tense muscles around the spine in those areas. If the muscles are tense then it can produce the same effect as your back being slightly out of place.
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I do usually wake up pretty stiff, I have to twist around and stretch and stuff. That's been pretty much a regular thing for a long while. I've been eating the same type of stuff lately, so no to the change in diet. I don't believe I've been jarred around at any time.

Can headaches really be caused by that? I didn't know that; It could certainly be the right explanation!
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