Submachine 4: the Lab

[Jatsko]

Well yes, is true. I'm talking more about how the message could just have been lying about whether or not it was actually a test that needed to be passed in order to continue forward. I mean each person who got to the end could have been automatically accepted anyway

[Vortex]

Oh, yea, I misread yes, that could have happened, though some Sub9's notes show that people seem to have certain aversion to "change the history", so if the test was fake it was probably fake from the beginning.

[Jatsko]

Yeah, could've been just a trap to lure people deeper into the Subnet..

[Sublevel 114]

sorry, but again...

another possibly translation problem:

there is an explanation...
You escaped from the loop...

what does mean "there is explanation..."?
explanation of what? To what did Mur refer?

could it mean that Murtaugh has information about Player escaped from the Loop?

[Jatsko]

"Has information", as in, 'knew about it' ?

[Sublevel 114]

well...
"I got information that you escaped from the loop..."

[Vortex]

no, he just infers why the player doesn't have a keyboard. he thinks "maybe it's because of that". if he had gotten information, he wouldn't ask the Player "isn't it?".

[Jatsko]

Mur could have just said that to avert the Player's suspicion that he/she was 'set up' by Mur himself.

I think it's still an automated message on the computer. Mur knew that the Player would end up at the Lab if they escaped the loop, so he could easily have an automated message set up for them on the computer. Think about it, that's why he could have smashed the keyboard. To prevent the Player from making responses other than pushing the button over and over and over again.

Mur didn't want the Player to ask questions and wanted to keep him/her in his control as long as possible, feeling that they needed Mur to survive (which, as far as I know, was what most of us felt until the end of Sub6). As long as the Player did this, he/she would be playing straight into Mur's plan to send them to the Edge.

Now, how did Mur know when a Player entered the lab? Maybe, if he did create the leaf transporter, he could have possibly known when someone else passed through his creation (through karmic energy, maybe).

[Sublevel 114]

no, he just infers why the player doesn't have a keyboard. he thinks "maybe it's because of that". if he had gotten information, he wouldn't ask the Player "isn't it?".

yeah, maybe you're right...

I just didn't understand why Mur talks about keyboard AND suddenly asks about Loop... I meant how did he know we escaped from the loop.

Now, how did Mur know when a Player entered the lab? Maybe, if he did create the leaf transporter, he could have possibly known when someone else passed through his creation (through karmic energy, maybe).

and you mean this happened again after we activated statue in 452?
he did send(?) us message about we can start working at lab tomorrow. right after we passed the test.

that's plausible...

[Jatsko]

So mentalEngineer and I have been studying the correlation between the Ancient Section and the Root a lot, and I may as well share what we found. Idk if you guys noticed this already or not, but we did for the first time.

Lookee here:




Notice that in the drop zone of 452 at the bottom right there are three lines, which could be the same three numbers we see in the telescope in 104. It would make a lot of sense, but it raises the interesting question of why 452 was branded with its own loc coordinate when no other location has it. But we think that the telescope is indeed pointing toward 452.

If this is true we need to tell Mr. Skutnik that he needs to change the color of that teleporter in the telescope view