Submachine 9 theories and suggestions

[Vortex]

It isn't known yet, but probably it's that.

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Maybe when the Submachine World was discover they created a Main Base of Operation next to the Entrances/Exit. Probably like how an Outpost in the Jungle is soon grown into the Main Base in that sector of the Amazon. What happen to it was nothing, just the Amnesia from the Submachine World had effect on everybody to where those with less complicit and better mental capability forgot about that Base. Sanctuary was probably another Outpost that grew into the Center Base of operation in the SubNet.

We (as in the playable Character) is heading for the Exit because Liz and the Other agreed to abandon the Submachine World due to the damage Murtaugh created. The Temple must have been some Ancient original Portal location that was created by ancestors back on Earth. Then it was discovered again by say Mur and Liz when they were working a Dig Site on Earth and found the Doorway into the Submachine World. The Temple has to be the Stable Point that holds the Foundation of the Doorway intact, but the Temple must be right next to the Doorway because we still have Sub 9 The Temple and Sub 10 The Exit.

what happen in Sub 9 The Temple is we the Character finds Files or Documents in the Original Base of Operation that reveal the Origins or the Story of the Submachine. Then in Sub 10 is where he heads for the Exit; but then Materusz has to know something we don't know yet about whats on the other side of the Exit. Probably what happen to Mur and Liz.

[Rooster5man]

What do you mean? Do you mean that the Temple will be similar to the sanctuary? Or do you mean that the Temple is in the same place as the sanctuary, but just in a different layer? If the latter wouldn't Liz have simply used a navigator from the sanctuary to get to the Temple and not the escape pod?

Well, I think of it like this - We entered a "Portal Door" to get from the Sanctuary into The Core, correct? If we entered one of those again, albeit in Layer 5, wouldn't that take us out of the Core and back into a version of the "landing strip" that is the Sanctuary?

Perhaps the Navigator can only be used in the Layers' version of The Core. After all, except in The Loop, we've never seen or heard of any other "Navigator" (unless that was Mateusz's intention to not drop any hints.)

Secret note from Sub8 says that Layer 1 isn't even original dimension - it is just flawed copy... So, Layer 3 is original dimension? And it is so important?

(I understand you meant Layer 3, we'll just pretend that's what you said) Well, wouldn't the original be important? Copies of the SubNet, as Mur may have noticed, must not be good for anyone, even if it means destroying them through a process (Karma) that may not be good either.

As for the Theory above: It seems very farfetched, being we have nothing to lead us in that direction nor evidence that the Amnesia Theory is correct, but I do know that the series' intention is not to leave the SubNet, so who knows how misleading the Sub10 title is? (evidence: iSubmachine trailer description)

And even if we have a shred of evidence on the start of the Submachines, we know Mateusz will only let us see a "glimpse of The Plan."

[WorldisQuiet5256]

No we do have Evident of my Idea. It what People i.e. Humans would do (if that is what we agree the Inhabitable and the Main Character of the Submachine Game is). It repeatedly happen in Earth History, such as the European Colorization of the Congo River into the Africa Jungle in 1899, the Scientific teams in Submachine 4 The Lab did the exact same thing with the coordinate Base Portal. Who to say that they didn't do it more than once.

My part about the Amnesia would make sense because us Human have different Defense System in our Body due to how our Antibody work. If you were to give one Person a sickness, he might get Sick from it and have Symptoms. But if you were to give it another Person his Antibody might have better defense against that sickness and the Person would only experiences Mild Symptoms of the Virus. Why wouldn't that count for the Amnesia.

The Part of the Dig Site and the Ancestors was a "On the Top of my Mind" suggestion of how the Submachine World was discover. I was just trying to make my point about the Entrances and the First Base that was built in the SubNet.

If you yourself was in an Alternate reality and that Structure of that Reality was starting to Fall apart, what would you do Rooster5man? Stay and let the resulting destruction kill you, or run and head for the Exit of that Reality and get back to your own which is stable?

[Rooster5man]

But you're making assumptions. Yes, reality may be collapsing, but The Temple may be a "safe haven" - Why else would everybody be there?

I have no problem with the assumption, but you can't call "what's already happened in history" as evidence to a Theory. Events in the Submachine history don't seem to be those of Earth's history (aside from the cultural impacts such as Caesar.)

Sure, it's common sense to run for "the exit," but we don't know the full story of what's going on.

Don't get me wrong, I like your Theory, it's a nice Sci-Fi plotline, but we know the first man-made Submachine is The Root and shouldn't that be part of this Theory of yours?

[WorldisQuiet5256]

The Root = Man Rough Draft as results of first attempt to Mimic the Submachine.

Man attempt to Copy the Submachine after the Base in the Temple has collected enough Data about Submachine.

[Rooster5man]

And this "data" may have been collected by the Computer, interesting. See, we're getting somewhere now, you didn't elaborate on that before about collecting data. Even then, why? Why mimic the Submachine?

And in mimicking the SubNet, there's this note:

I finally understood how they could mimic the structure of the subnet within a garden...

They didn't have to mimic. They were already living inside the subnet.

Where does that fit in?

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Already Living Inside = they already settle into the already Existing Structure with their own objects of Human Function, i.e. Chairs, Tables, Toilet, Pots, Plates, like how when we start when life on Earth began. We already had the Ground and the surrounding area, but we built Houses for Shelter, Fields for Food, Rags for Clothes, Fire for Warmth. Those became more complex as Time went on.

That Note I think is referring to the Last Inhabited of the Submachine Eons ago. it was written by the same people who enter the Submachine World as Mur and Liz.

To answer your question about mimicking the SubNet, why do we mimic things in Earth's Nature? Possible Use or Function to help back on Earth

[Rooster5man]

To answer your question about mimicking the SubNet, why do we mimic things in Earth's Nature? Possible Use or Function to help back on Earth

That's possible, I just don't see what the SubNet might be of assistance to on Earth. It only seemed by that note that the Winter Garden (which was in the SubNet) helped expand the rest of the SubNet, nothing including Earth.

It's the time factor, as you mentioned, that could make it either one way or the other - That Liz's note refers to the first inhabitants of the SubNet from Earth, or that there were humans already living in the SubNet, just existing there.

[WorldisQuiet5256]

The possible Function could be creating Places, Homes, Structures or other Forms of Architecture, Engineering, or Inventing from thin Air as results of the Boundaries of our Reality restricting our Creative Capability to the Laws of Physics. the Submachine World is not like Earth in the Physical Dimension, I could possible build a normal looking Door that when I walk through it I did not step 2 Feet but 2 Mile from where I once was.