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[borys610]

Anime - Japanese Cartoon. We can argue that they have complitely different style, and are destinated for older/mature/adult people, but still they are animated movies - cartoons.

[Anteroinen]

Violance in T&J is silly and "cartoonish". But I liked it after all. Even though I was always hoping that Tom will win. It was still funny, after all. Even if Tom was crying it was always looking silly, and sometimes they were even friendly, to each other. In Powerpuff Girls It was looking, like they can really kill their anemies. And that isn't funny, even if you are five-year old.

Nah, kids love that stuff. Well some do.

[The Kakama]

Nah, kids love that stuff. Well some do.

Don't believe us, look at Roald Dahl's.

[Vurn]

I only once watched South Park. The plot of that particular episode was that some kinda character thought everything smelled like shit, and then, slowly, he noticed everything - the sun, his friends, the surroundings - were shit. Like, literally, excrement. It was gross.

[The Kakama]

Glad they don't air south park here.

[Berty]

Oh don't get me started on cartoons. I will flip some serious shit at modern children's TV.
I mentioned it on the previous forum how I detest the Disney Channel, I don't get how Disney create all these shitty sit-"com"s for kids, where the kids will sit through 5 hours of the same obvious punchlines and maybe you'll hear them chuckle once, maybe twice, and have them hardly entertained. Yet put them in front of Tom & Jerry, Wile E. Coyote, Looney Tunes and you'll have them in hysteria for 5 hours. I can't remember the amount of times Tom & Jerry gave me hiccups.
Oh, hang on, I've just figured it out. It's because writing a decent comedy show would actually require the assholes put some actual effort into it, and we couldn't possibly let them earn the money they get, could we now?
And then you've got the new* style of animation in Phineas and Ferb and MLP and the like, which is all incredibly simple Flash animation techniques which would, or at least should, get you a C- if you submitted it in something like an University course. It's pathetic. And that started because of shows like Dexter's Lab and PPG.
And fuck Adventure Time... Fuck it with a giant chainsaw, blazing spike encrusted d***o. I would need rant at you in person to explain my hate for that show, words cannot express the raw infernal rage. It's like the Scientology of the cartoon world.

but still they are animated movies

Ha, hardly.
Most animation is drawn/filmed at roughly 24/25 frames per second, but can easily go as high as 30+. That means that every second you're getting 24 images shown on the screen. That's the way TV and monitors work.
Now, as animation requires drawn imagery not all the cells (frames) will be perfectly drawn, and when animated at that speed they can cause some weird visual artifacting. The solution to this? Use the technique called animating on 2s, which means if necessary you draw out the same cell over 2 frames instead. That also gives you room to insert single cells if you need a smoother transition between key poses.
Now it's perfectly acceptable for an entire animation at 24 frames per second to be on 2s, because you essentially get 12 frames per second, and I think you need a frame rate of something like at least 10 frames per second for the illusion of motion.
But it's common practice for Anime to be drawn on 3s and even more common to be done on 4s, which means you get 8 or 6 frames per second... 6 frames per second?!
I'm sorry but that's not an animation... that's a slide show. And going on that reasoning alone, saying that is animation means you can say a pop-up book is animation.
And the other thing with Anime is the pathetic amount of effort they put in the little animation they do. They'll spend 30 seconds on one camera angle and in those 30 seconds the only thing that will move will be someone's hand and mouth, and by move I mean the mouth will be on a short loop where it's just constantly opening and closing by getting bigger and smaller. There is zero lip syncing in Anime because they only have 3 poses for the mouth; closed, small triangle, big triangle.
And I know these animation studios can do better, because half of them did the inbetweening for shows like Animaniacs and Looney Tunes, and if you look at the animation in those the characters never stand still for more than a second.
I suppose my point with Anime is that it should never have come out of comic book form into animation. It is perfectly designed for comic books and I have not seen a single thing they have done with Anime that can't be done in a Manga.

* read lazy

End of rant, for now.

[The Kakama]

You have a point there.Altough,from another perspective,cartoons aren't just about detail and being refined,they're also about story and making kids laugh,but then again,you're still right.
The only cartoon I like that isn't made 10 years ago is Tron:uprising,but it really isn't a cartoon,but an animation.

[sundayfever]

Powerpuff Girls.

FINALLY

I was wondering what the f were they talking about.

And, nah, never liked that cartoon much.

On the topic of South Park, I actually like its kind of humor. It gets little too harsh or gross from time to time, but I still like it. The first episode I've ever seen was about that shake weight. Pretty... yeah.

[Vurn]

The cartoon from my childhood I liked the most was Samurai Jack. Man, that was funny. Oh and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (such a silly name lol) were also really cool.

[borys610]

I remember, how it was in our version?
"Zmutowane żółwie ninja"?
Nevermind, it was awesome. Even though it was this new version, non-classical. They have funny names, Michel-Angelo, Leonardo, Rafael, and well I can't remember last one. It took me years to get the joke.
Samurai Jack was... kind of... strange, that's for sure. I didn't liked it. It's like... long, man every shot was long pan, or slow-mo fight. And I didn't like the style too. It highly recembles my dreams. But story was pretty good too.
EDIT
Checked, "Wojownicze żółwie ninja" that is far original title. And last name was Donatello.