Submachine 10 and beyond Theories and Suggestions

[ENIHCAMBUS]

Sub9 had 155 screens in total. So for Sub10 I expect you're waiting for 200, right?

[Sublevel 114]

Sub9 had 155 screens in total. So for Sub10 I expect you're waiting for 200, right? :P

320. :P

BTW, today I saw dream where Exit was Asylum! XD

[ShadowNiL]

Sub9 had 155 screens in total. So for Sub10 I expect you're waiting for 200, right?

320.

BTW, today I saw dream where Exit was Asylum! XD

An exit to Asylum, maybe?

I.E.: You exit the Submachine out into a "safe" place, where suddenly you encounter Asylum via Jump Scare, who tells you "NO REFUGE!".
Then the screen blacks out, and GAME OVER appears in cold white letters on a pitch black void background.

Thoughts?

[Sublevel 114]

An exit to Asylum, maybe?

Nah, Exit is location. As well as Edge.
And we appeared in Asylum for mental people. :P

But all this is delirium, because

I think I said that like 100 times already, but what the hell.

submachines ARE REAL structures. it's not a dream, dillusion, nirvana, hallucination or whatever. murtaugh will not wake up in his own bed at the end

Well, Murtaugh won't wake up at all...

[ThunderDasher]

Well, we could indeed end up in some asylum, because people wouldn't believe our stories about the Sub... And, as I suggested previously, for suddenly spawning inside Mateusz's own house.

But when we get out of the Asylum, all we can see are black-and-white drawings forming the world around, with some strange fog in the air, and a great deja vu...

And then starts - DAYMARE TOWN 1

Also, that ShadowNil signature

[Sublevel 114]

Well, we could indeed end up in some asylum, because people wouldn't believe our stories about the Sub... And, as I suggested previously, for suddenly spawning inside Mateusz's own house.

But when we get out of the Asylum, all we can see are black-and-white drawings forming the world around, with some strange fog in the air, and a great deja vu...

And then starts - DAYMARE TOWN 1

Lol, I want to see all these three endings! :D

Maybe... If you found 0 secrets, or you made 0 good deal for Shiva, you would end in Asylum.
If one - you would end in DayMareTown.
If three - you destroy subverse... (my favourite ending)

[ThunderDasher]

Quick thought about "Those lost in the 8th Layer" thingy that had been discussed earlier...

Some people suggested that we were entering the 8th Layer to find and rescue those lost there (Possibly 4th Dynsaty?) or something along these lines. They also seem to think that this 8th Layer is a normal layer like the others.

I feel like I'm the only one here who disagrees. The Secret Section states that the 8th Layer - The Layer of Light - is a "guide light" of sorts, as you guide the light to wherever you want to be, and the light guides you there. I think it has something to do with the person's own mind. If Mur's body has kicked the bucket, met the worms, settled in the boot-hill, Still alive, Still alive, Still Aliii-- err, dead, but he's "reached the 8th Layer" and it is revealed that apparently he's still stuck there, perhaps the Light is not for the body - but for the mind - and only the Enlightnement allows you to use the Light efficiently. Otherwise, you get "lost" in the Light, as whoever-they-are apparently did. Perhaps Mur's mind is still there, lingering in the timeless Light.

tl;dr The 8th Layer is a spiritual layer for one's mind, which in turns require you to achieve "The highest level of enlightnement possible for a one-dimensional mind" (which We The Player apparently did), lest ye get lost within it. Perhaps we'll never really see anyone in the Sub, but we may still "meet" them, but only their minds.

Thoughts, anyone?

*inb4everybodyignoresthispost*

[Sublevel 114]

so, you want us ignore your post? ;)

I find your theory interesting.

[Babylon]

What if the Defense Systems aren't protecting the people in layer 8, but protecting us from them? Stopping them from escaping into the other layers?

[ThunderDasher]

...But then how do the Defense Systems, and the Core, are related to the Layers?

Are there several Edges, and DS areas? And the Core... It leads to a portal through Layers, but is it close to the Knot, so that it, too, may be the same though all eight Layers?

So many stuff from other games that must be re-visited... But I don't know about the Defense Systems and people in Layer 8. I don't think the DS even has anything to do with that. I can show you a shocking truth, even if you're not ready to accept it, or cannot. Would you collapse? Would you think I'm lying? Would you get out of the Matrix, spit out some white goo, pass out and return later for combat training with Morpheus? Would you become mad? We do not know what would happen if someone "not-elightened" tries to go through the Light. Perhaps they do not know how to guide it, so that it may guide them, and tehrefore get lost.

For what I see the Light is about the mind. If you're wise, you'll know how to use it. If not, you'll linger forever with no way out. It's like showing someone a complex time machine. If you give it to a kid, a teenager, a young man, a wise doctor, a farmer, a soldier, a quantum physics expert, an old man - how hard would they screw up, and how much would they succeed? All depends if they're ready to use the machine. But they have the option of not doing so. Consequences are theirs to bear with. With this example, I believe that this Light is a tool. Should you know how to use it, gg wp no re, 100%'ed Life. Should you know not, you're screwed, better luck next time.

Still, it could have something to do with the DS as well...