Meditations

The Abacus
wisdom crystal finder
Posts: 2877
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 10:41

Re: Meditations

Post by The Abacus »

Boingo wrote:Hitler believed in something, and that was that the non-Aryan race was strong, and the rest were weak and deserved to be ground to dust.
Jews, Communists, Socialists, gypsies, homosexuals and the mentally ill were sent to concentration camps where many starved to death, were gassed or killed using some other horrible method. The ones who survived suffered indescribable physical and mental torture during those times. That was the extent to which racism ran.
Boingo wrote:heck, could he speak
And that's how he was able to manipulate people to get what he wanted
Boingo wrote:-Hitler: "Hey, look! Even your Royal family is of Germanic descent? What do you say to that?"
-George Rex (in an RP accent): "Oh dear. How abou' we change our name from Saxon Gotha-Coburg to Windsor?"
Churchill would not be stopped by his sense of moral, and found the most damning way to hurt germany. It worked.
If there's a conflict, what matters is what provoked the conflict; genealogy goes out the window.
Balance is imperative; without it, total collapse and destruction is imminent.
User avatar
The Kakama
karma portal traveller
Posts: 6243
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 16:35
Location: Selangor, Malaysia

Re: Meditations

Post by The Kakama »

Boingo wrote:Hitler and Churchill operated on different mindsets during WW2.
Hitler believed in something, and that was that the non-Aryan race was strong, and the rest were weak and deserved to be ground to dust. And he would keep following the goals based on this belief, such as the superior aryan race needing 'breeding ground', e.g. the Soviet Union.
Well, that was the catalyst for the downfall of Hitler, I guess.
He believed every word he spoke was true to his 'belief', (listen to him speak-he was a psychopath, but heck, could he speak.) but in the event that something would get in the way he would manipulate the people without deferring to his 'beliefs'. Nothing would get i the way of his beliefs.

Churchill operated differently. He knew he wanted something, so he would find the easiest and most effective way of doing it (unlike Hitler, who would want something done, and carry it out around his beliefs) and then carry it out: he wanted to hurt Germany, so he carpet-bombed the country for three months. What did hitler do? Nothing, because until four months after they started, he believed that the British were still of the Aryan race.
-Hitler: "Hey, look! Even your Royal family is of Germanic descent? What do you say to that?"
-George Rex (in an RP accent): "Oh dear. How abou' we change our name from Saxon Gotha-Coburg to Windsor?"
Churchill would not be stopped by his sense of moral, and found the most damning way to hurt germany. It worked.

How did these two men think?
So it was like this: Hitler had his ideology, and it was sacred to him, so he couldn't adapt to situations effectively.
Churchill on the other hand could, and exploited the weaknesses of the axis powers as best as he can.
Like Abacus said:
If there's a conflict, what matters is what provoked the conflict; genealogy goes out the window.
Is this my final form?
Boingo
wisdom crystal finder
Posts: 2729
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 19:55
Location: ...

Re: Meditations

Post by Boingo »

Mm.
So if we applied the personality types to them, they would be...?
The Abacus
wisdom crystal finder
Posts: 2877
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 10:41

Re: Meditations

Post by The Abacus »

Do you mean a general analysis or a specific personality type according to either the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, Keirsey Temperament Sorter or Socionics?

(Note: I don't know anything about Socionics or the Keirsey Temperament Sorter)
Balance is imperative; without it, total collapse and destruction is imminent.
User avatar
Vurn
subnet traveller
Posts: 1026
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 19:11
Location: Poland
Contact:

Re: Meditations

Post by Vurn »

Boingo wrote:
(in an RP accent): "Oh dear. How abou' we change
Hah, glottal stops as allophones of voiceless dental stops.
TT: I guess one could use those words to describe it.
TT: If armed with a predilection for the inapt.
Boingo
wisdom crystal finder
Posts: 2729
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 19:55
Location: ...

Re: Meditations

Post by Boingo »

Try Kahler?
User avatar
WorldisQuiet5256
karma portal traveller
Posts: 5667
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 17:56
Location: 966 - Quiet Rooms - WiQ

Re: Meditations

Post by WorldisQuiet5256 »

Changing topic.
The Computer system SkyNet from the terminator series.
It being the "Villain" of the series would technically be evil, right?

But its a machine, and it decision to kill the human race was base on it programing to "Defend itself, and destroy all threats to its existences". The people programing meant the threat to be their designated "Enemy of the United States." But it viewed all of Humanity as a threat since all of humanity can potentially be a threat to its existence.

But it still the question as is its motivation make it 'Evil"?
Or the fact that it is a computer making this decision to erase the human race base on its limited program to judge the concept of "evil" which we all have the potential?
WHERE DO WE COME FROM
WHAT ARE WE
WHERE ARE WE
GOING
User avatar
Vurn
subnet traveller
Posts: 1026
Joined: 04 Dec 2012 19:11
Location: Poland
Contact:

Re: Meditations

Post by Vurn »

Or maybe they needed a cool villain for a movie about shooting robots in the face? Why do you dig so deep into the plot of an action movie.
TT: I guess one could use those words to describe it.
TT: If armed with a predilection for the inapt.
User avatar
ENIHCAMBUS
karma portal traveller
Posts: 8653
Joined: 04 Feb 2013 22:17
Location: Pastel Lands.

Re: Meditations

Post by ENIHCAMBUS »

Vurn wrote:Or maybe they needed a cool villain for a movie about shooting robots in the face? Why do you dig so deep into the plot of an action movie.
Well, something thats is sci-fi related has some deep regarding the vision of the future of the authors.
ENIHCAMBUS: State of the Art Scanning!
🧐
User avatar
WorldisQuiet5256
karma portal traveller
Posts: 5667
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 17:56
Location: 966 - Quiet Rooms - WiQ

Re: Meditations

Post by WorldisQuiet5256 »

Vurn wrote: Why do you dig so deep into the plot of an action movie.
When I have nothing to do from time to time
I just think about things.
WHERE DO WE COME FROM
WHAT ARE WE
WHERE ARE WE
GOING
Post Reply